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Question: Should there be laws in a utopian society?
Wednesday, March 12, 2008
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Yes there should be laws in the utopian society. Even though it is an place for people to come an relax, people tend to over time seem to take things for granted. The laws shouldnt be that strict but in effect enought to keep some order. The order in which when things happen who will the people turn to? They will just run around like scared chickens. They will not be able to do anything. So in the utopian society it would kinda be like an tag-a-war. It will be when the people for an month honor the laws they will be able have an fun day when the laws are not effect.
i think there should be NO laws in a Utopian society. if this is supposed to be a place of serenity then there will be no problems at all. so i don't think that it is right for people to place issues in a Utopian society because then it would be no point of creating Utopia in the first place
Yes their should be laws in a utopia society. Because even thought it is supposed to be a place of no problems you have to rember it is still a place where people live. Just because it's differen then other palces there should still be order so people want forget it's a real society.
why charmisa what if the people thier began to distory this perfect place or began to act up what would you do. How would you control the people
There should not be any laws in an utopian society because it's a perfect place. When every thing in your society is suppose to perfect then you shouldn't want to do anything to come aganist your society, which mean envolving yourself with negative things.
But elesse why not any laws these are still people we are talking about people are only humans not perfect the place might be perfect people are just people they need laws to follow in order to keep everything in order
why eleese what if the people thier began to distory this perfect place or began to act up what would you do. How would you control the people
well marlene what i would say to that is when people want to go to this perfect place there trying to get away from all bad places so why would they have bad thoughts and bring them to utopia to me it don't make since
Well Marlene, if the people there began to destroy the society then that would be a different story. I feel that being perfect means that there are NO problems at all.
Well charmisa when you have an preaceful place you tend to have somebody who cant stay the fact that the place is peaceful. Also people can only for an certain time ebjoy peaceful place. when they is nothing going wrong people will snap what would you do for them?
why eleese?
Charmisa i know it's a perfect place but like i said before we are only humans and humans make mistakes that is a guarantee...what will they do with no laws and soemthing bad happens
Ok everyone, So let's say that I want to live in this utopian society. But to me I love to steal and a utopian society for me is where I can steal the most. So how are the victims of my crimes protected? Or should I be banished from the society?
There should be laws in Utopia because people will get too wild and crazy if they don't have certain rules to follow.
To Marlene there should never be laws in a utopian society. If you put laws in it it would no longer be a utopia it would be America started of as someones idea of a utopian society. If youy put laws in it people are still going to do what they want.
what i am trying to get you to understand is that if there is this perfect place then there is no way that anyone can even be allowed to even step foot in this world you have to already be thinking clearly and positive
I think that the person should be banished from the society. Only because they do not have no laws and if a person comes in there trying to steal they should be banished. But then again they should be punished because humans do crazy things because they are only humans so if this person steals so will another resident from the place. So therefore it should be laws to punish the crimial to protect he other people in utopia. Also if there are no laws how would the people feel safe and how would they know for sure that someone won't make a mistake. Any bad mistake can harm the whole community.
TO MARLENE,
I THINK THAT THERE SHOULD NOT BE ANY LAWS BECUSE OF THE FACT THAT IF A SOCIETY IS A UTOPIA, EVERYTHING IS PERFECT; THUS, CREATING A SOCIETY THAT SHOULD BE FREE OF ANY IMPERFECTIONS. THEREFORE, THERE SHOULD NOT BE ANY LAWS.
the victims are protect by laws and you will be banished also. The people there can tell what your punishment should me.
to Gabrielle lets say an rapist is planing on going to your prefect city and rapes everyone there. What would you do? So since there is no laws how would you handle this problem?
So should somone be banished for stealing? Or should they be allowed to live in the society? The fundamental question is do humans have the abiltiy to live without doing wrong? A utopian society would require just that. What do you think?
I believe that there should'nt be laws in a utopian society because an utopian should origionaly be a structured well supported and a place that manifests harmony and love.Also I believe that a utopian society shouldn't have laws cause if you have laws it wont be civilized anymore it'll just turn into a matter like when parliament came at the colonies which will result in a extroadinary bad outcome
To amber,
lets say an rapist is planing on going to your prefect city and rapes everyone there. What would you do? So since there is no laws how would you handle this problem?
Good point Marlene. To where should I be banished?
TO EVERYONE WHO BELIVES THAT THERE SHOULDNT BE LAWS IN THE UTOPIAN SOCITY THINK ABOUT THIS who would the utopian socitey feel like also how would you know if that person you let in is good or bad. How would you judge somebody becuase somebody could come in and have an clean mind but true bad becuase of the no laws think about it.
TO ALICIA,
ALTHOUGH PEOPLE WILL BE PEOPLE, IN A UTOPIAN SOCIETY, THESE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO ADJUST TO THE PERFECT COMMUNITIES AROUND THEM. SO THEY WILL NOT BE ABLE TO DEFY THEIR SOCIETY BECAUSE THEY ARE USED TO WHAT THEY ARE CONSTANTLY SURROUNDED BY.
Jerome If you institute laws, don't you think people would sneak and break the laws as they do now? Do people really have the ability to live without doing wrong?
I think that there should not be any laws in a utopian society because if utopian is "perfect" what do you need laws for nothing should go wrong. But, we can not control what humans do. In the perfect society humans would be perfect I do think and wouldn't do anything that would harm the society because utopian is built on trust, love, truth, everything that is considered to be "perfect.
TO JEROME
HOW WOULD YOU KNOW IF SOMEBODY OR EVERYONE IS READY FOR THIS SOCIETY
I think that if Utopia had rules to begin with the thief would had never have thought he could get over on the people.
i really believe it shouldnt either. I really disagree with marlene. If there were laws, it wouldnt be a peaceful place. You wouve to listen the laws. If one law says that you are not allowed to have fun, you cant have fun. Its a law.
I believe that there should be laws even tough it's suppose to be like a perfect society. I believe that without no laws someone will disregard the fact that it's suppose to b a perfect society and decide to commit crime just because there's no laws, and they wouldn't even get in trouble because there's no laws.
Amber you refer to humans adjusting to the "way" the utopian way. How will they leave behind those things that plague society today? Smoking, pollution, violence, gambling, etc. In your paper you said that you would end gambling. Do you think people would sneak and do it anyway?
I think that it should be laws in the Utopian Society. Even though it is a place where their is no crime but you never know what people could do. I also think that the laws shouldnt be that strict because people their isnt really do anything out of the ordinary. I feel as though it would be on the safe side to have laws, because any place where people live should have laws and orders so that it can always let a person know the consequence of an action that they might do.
to shanee
i know we dont have the abiliy to control what people d but would you reather have an bad name on your socity becuase you didnt do anything for the people there or have laws.
Brit what type of laws should there be? Where would you put people who break laws? How do you deal with them? Are they rehabilitated, imprisoned, killed, what?
TO MRS. KARLA,
I THINK THAT SOMEBODY SHOULD BE BANISHED FROM A UTOPIAN SOCIETY IF THEY DECIDE TO STEAL SOMETHING. IF THIS SOMEBODY DECIDES TO LIVE IN THE UTOPIAN SOCITEY BUT DOESN'T UNDERSTAND THAT EVERYTHING IS SUPPOSED TO BE PERFECT THEN YES THEY SHOULD BE BANISHED.
I ALSO THINK THAT IT IS HUMAN NATURE TO BE DESTRUCTIVE BUT THESE PEOPLE SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED INTO A UTOPIAN SOCIETY FROM THE GATE.
to Precious
if doesnt have to be harsh lawsa but enough laws to keep the poeple safe. So lets say you live in the society and somebody robs you at random. This is the first crime. what would you do?
TO MARLENE,
THIS RAPIST WOULD NOT EVEN BE ABLE TO ENTER THE SOCIETY BECUASE OF THE FACT THAT THE PEOPLE IN THE UTOPIA SHOULD BE ABLE TO TELL A BAD PERSON FROM A GOOD PERSON SINCE THEY HAVE BE AROUND GOOD PEOPLE ALL THIER LIVES.
To charmisa, i so agree with you. This is suppose to be a place filled with peace. This is a make believe place but if it was real and it had laws. it would be just like any other country and/or city.
To Marlene we are two very diferent people my utopia is different from yours. If you came into a utopia and somegave you a set of rules to abide by and told you what you could and couldn't do how would you feel? Would this relly be your idea of a utopia?
to amber
k so you say the society can tell. So if i came into your society and i was the nicest person you can ever met. I do everything i am surpose to do and take care of myself and is nice to other people. Buton night i snap and kill the people on the block how would you feel.
Alright so 64% of you think that there should be no laws. How do you protect people if something goes wrong? Is everyone perfect? How do you achieve perfection in humanity?
to 11th grade
How do you protect people if something goes wrong? You will have to use laws. Is everyone perfect? no nobody perfect. the only person who perfect left the earth.How do you achieve perfection in humanity? You just cant
I believe that nothing would go wrong in a Utopian Society. Its a perfect place with a peaceful, harmless environment.
I also believe that once you are in a utopian society, then you are perfect. Perfect should be surrounded by perfect.
precious i agree with you but o perfect society is guaranteed.
to Precious
k so you said the society is an perfect place for you to live. How you you allow people or judge people in order to be in your society?
to alicia
k since it is an peaceful place how would protect the people who lives thier?
To continue on that last comment on about the perfection of humanity i believe that nobody is perfect so as a result there will be mistakes involved especially in a utopian society.So if something was to go wrong in a society that particular society or organization should go over that matter in a ordinarly fashion and resolve it and move on!To sum up on what i'm sayin is that peopole make mistakes but since an utopian society is known to be a perfect place to be involved in then if there was to be a problem in thaat organization that inflicted alot of damage on the organization then i believe that they would handle it well to protect and defend the people that share a part of the utopian society.And that was a word form an accademie,back to you Ms. Karla
no cause if there is laws then its not a utopian society for some people. and as i recall a utopian society is perfect paradise and laws wouldnt make my paradise perfect.
to marlene
i kinda agree wit you but think of this way if there are rules then it would be just like the society we live in now. and this society is horrible
to jerome
how would you handle amy ,atter that happens in his society. Lets say im new and im very nice to everyone. the next 3 yrs. i start an cult and recuit people to it. After an while ill tell people to kill 50 people each and they do. How would you handle that manner. Also you dont know who the member are.
Isnt heaven suppose to be paradise for everybody RICHARD??? but good explaination and good response
to richard
thanks for agreeing with me. My point is that the laws will not be bad nor very big but just like minor laws like you should kill. that is all.
If someone in a utpoian society was to break a law then i feel that they should be punished. I think that the other people in the society should have the right to be protected.
to:Marlene Well in response for the accademic comment you just asked me:If It came down to that point of groups of people killing each other, I would eventually start maybe another utopian society cause if a utopian invests structure then why not start another.
Why there should be laws in the utopian society. because Marlene look at philly and they called it "brothely love" and you see people getting killed everday not ever here around the world so tell there it should and then u people not going to follow the rules.
to my accademie jerome
so if that happen what if the same thing happen in the new society what would you do? keep creating new society?
To: MarleneProbably so until i finally get some order in my society
To Eleese you said If someone in a utpoian society was to break a law then i feel that they should be punished. I think that the other people in the society should have the right to be protected. BUT what if it was a little kid boy or girl and they did something wrong so then what would you do ?
I think there should be law be they should be limited and only be laws to improve the Utopia. But the laws cant be real strict to the point that the people of the Utopian Society start to feel like its social injustice.
I feel as though because this is utopia not just some place that people can just come freely into and live you would have to under go different test to see what type of person you are just because you seem nice on the outside doesn’t mean you are the same in the inside.
TO MRS. KARLA,
SEE, WHAT I WAS SAYING MRS. KARLA WAS THAT PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THE SOCIETY HAVE BEEN THERE FOR SUCH A LONG TIME THAT THEY ARE ALREADY CONSUMED BY THOSE PARTICULAR CUSTOMS. I ALSO STATED THAT OUTSIDE PEOPLE SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED INTO THE UTOPIA JUST BECAUSE OF THE SIMPLE FACT THAT THEY COULD BE A MENACE TO SOCIETY.
yo chalres but what if an outbreak of roits happens. How would you controll it? Couldnt you have prevent this from happen by laws?
no matter what i think that there should police around but in mind everyone in this place is perfect with every small flaws that wont lead to an act of violence
In a Utopian society everything would be perfect there aren't any need for police because there would not be any problems like that because it is utopia.
gabb i think that ht e police should be there because something very small could happen so th police are there to make sure the situation does not go farther
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I think it should be laws for a utopian society.I Do agree with Marlene because laws should keep oder.I don't agree with charm because with out laws how would the society be. I do agree with eleese some what but you need laws.
Well, I disagree with what marlene first statement because why should there be laws in a society that is perfect also known as paradise. If the utopian society had laws then everyone can compare that to conflict because the laws would mean that the society has some type of disruption, and ignorant people.
the concept of an utopia is a hard thing to think about because we forget the fact that in a utopia everything is perfect so we really would not have to worry about little fights and things because they would not happen.
Charles I kind of do agree with your last statement but then again I don't because the children in the utopian society should at a certain age have respect for everyone in that society. For instance, a child around two years of age should already respect others and they should have learn that from their parents.
I strongly agree with charmisa first statement because she have an effective point on why there should not be laws in the utopian society. If thats the case like she said then utopian society should not have been created in the first place meaning the law must not trust people in this society.
Well, Mothura Karla if you were a thief that I strongly feel that you should be banished from the utopian society because it would not be a perfect society if you were to live there.
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